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23. 04. 2010 | 325 přečtení

Snaha ujasnit si v souvislosti s platnými pravidly v CLRG možnou účast tanečníků asociovaných s CLRG na naší letní škole mě vedla k vedení další korespondence. Uplynul opět měsíc a ne naší vinou jsme se opět nikam neposunuli. Neznáme pravidla CLRG o jejichž získání usilujeme už rok a ani Charles Moore nám není schopen odpovědět na zcela jednoduchou otázku, která se týká možné účasti stepdancigových tanečníků - členů některé školy CLRG některých seminářů v rámci BSS 2010, které nemají s irským step dancingem nic společného. Uvádíme i souběžnou korespondenci s Johnem Cullinane, který býval členem committee CLRG a jeho pohled je zcela jasný a koresponduje dle našeho soudu se zdravým rozumem.
V.B.

Dopis z 22.3.2010

Dear Charles,

this email below is last I obtained from you. It is from October, 8th 2009. It is last communication between us. I sent aplication form to be Bernard´s Summer School declared from the side of CLRG as a open and I am waiting. Except corespondence with John Cullinane I didn´t obtain message about condition of my request. I would like ask you: Exists possibility to declare Bernard´s Summer School 2010 as open? Exists possibility obtain rules of CLRG touching this problem? I know you are very busy. We resolve this problem from last spring. But from your answer depends how several dancers (with CLRG registration) will spend a part of their holiday at August this year. Our summer school isn´t only about step dancing lessons. Dancers interest about other irish dancing form (sean nós, set dancing) or music lessons, sean nós singing or Irish. But some TCRG´s don´t want permit their dancers visit this other lessons if this school isn´t open. It is form me very strange. What is the point a view of CLRG on this problem? I hope your answer will come soon and will be good for Irish Dancing.
Best regards

Václav Bernard
Prague, Czech Republic

Odpověď z téhož dne:

Hello Vaclav,
There seems to be a misunderstanding here. Have you sent in your application form for ths Summer Camp with all the details.
I remember something but not 100% sure at the moment re instructors names.
Please send details to me as soon as possible and I will check my emails going back as I keep a record of all transactions.
Regards

Charles

Další odpověď o pár minut později:

Hi Vaclav,
I sent an email to you re application on 8th Oct 2009, for your request for 2010.

Charles

O dvě hodiny později odesílám email a s ním i vyplněný formulář

Dear Charles,

I am sending to you apllication form, which I sent after your email at 8th October (apllication form was from download of website CLRG and it is for 2009 year).
And below is text of my email from 25th November last year. Give me to know, please, if you need some other details.

Best regards

Václav

Ve stejný den mi píše John Cullinane:

Dear Vaclav, I do not think there is anything else that I can do for you. If you wish you could appeal to the Chairman of the Commission (Mr. John McDonogh) you could address an email to him and send it to him as follows Maire@clrg.ie - that is the adrress of the staff at the office of the Commission and be sure mark it for attention of Chairman John McDonogh (otherwise it will just be sent to Charles Moore again). As far as I know you were refused because open workshops must only have teachers registered with CLRG ? that is my understanding of the situation. BUT it is Charles Moore who should be wrriting this to you (not me). I would advice that you wait till after Easter to contact the Chairman because just now he (an I myself etc `) are all heading off the Glasgow for World Championships. Explain to the Chairman that you have not been getting replies from Charles Moore and ask him to send you the rules and regulations regarding an open workshop. Vaclav - I cant do any more. I am not on that committee.
John Cullinane

Reaguji a odepisuji Johnovi:

Dear John,

thank you for your answer and your patience with me and my problems. I started today new emails with Charles Moore. My actual situation with the summer school is the same as was last year: I have practically the same teachers. Because I don´t know rules of CLRG, I don´t know, what is it teachers registered with CLRG. Gerard Butler as a teacher sean nós and set dancning classes wasn´t registered with CLRG ( I hope it is true) and I suppose it is necessary. Also my music teachers and teachers Irish. And I suppose Ronan Cormack ADCRG has something common with CLRG. And I don´t suppose dancers registered under RTME will not come visit lesson of step dancing to BSS 2010, because teachers will not permit it. But I don´t understand, why registered dancer under CLRG can´t visit lessons of sean nós dancing or some music lessons at my summer school? It is one interpretation of rules of CLRG. I think every registered dancers respect wish of their teachers and don´t visit step dancing lessons others teachers (it was last year, when BSS 2009 was open). We want to respect rules of CLRG but nobody knows it. And I ask for it more than year from this reason.
I sent today another times apllication form of our summer school to Charles and I hope everything going to happy end. When you will follow from distance and by one eye progress of this situation, I will be very gratefull. Thank you for your help.

Best regards

Václav

26.3. jsem obdržel dva emaily od Ch. Moora:

Hello Vaclav,

In order for An Coimisiun to pass your Application form you must comply with the rules re Open Workshops.
Only registered T.C.R.G. T.M.R.F. or A.D.C.R.G. would be allowed to Instruct Open workshops that would be passed by the Rules committee and sanctioned by An Coimisiun.
I will be away for the next week but please correct your application as I cannot pass it as it stands.
Regards

Charles

Hi Vaclav,

I have checked my emails back to November 2009 and I received no e mail from you as I keep all my emails for reference. Also who ever you sent it to , the application shows 2009 and that is why it wasnt sent to me.Anyway I have informed you of the changes you have to make in order that we can discuss your application.Regards

Charles.

7. dubna po skončení šampionátu posílám následující email Ch. Moorovi:

Dear Charles,

how are you? Hope you had a nice time in Glasgow. I am back to you again because of Bernard's Summer School (BSS).
I hope you can help me out of my struggle. As I have programme for this year BSS already released, I wont be changing the teachers list then. So I am no more applying for the 'open workshop' status for this year.
Recently I came across problem of one dancing group connected to CLRG teacher, they are not allowed to attend BSS. We all understand they are not allowed to attend step dancing classes. Unfortunatelly their teacher wont allow them to participate at other classes, too - sean nos dancing or music classes etc, which from my point of you has nothing to do with CLRG and its rules. Or is there any CLRG rule, which would ban CLRG dancers from attending workshops (excluding step dancing) - such as sean nos dancing, music classes, irish language or sean nos singing at BSS (with no 'open workshop' status)? As BSS is not only dancing event does CLRG rules apply on all workshops(classes), which are part of the whole event?
I have never received any list of CLRG rules regarding workshops, from you or anybody else (even though I kept asking since last year spring time), I would like to ask you to explain me what is allowed or not.
BSS consists of lots of different classes (workshops) - music, dancing, singing, language, etc. Some people come only for one part of it... some want to combine more of them together. Some classes are running at the same time and in more then one venue. So its impossible for one to attend all of it.
I would like to kindly ask you to write a statement, what i could put on BSS website to avoid possible misunderstanding among BSS and CLRG teachers/schools.
As you understand I need to solve this issue urgently. I really appreciate all your help in advance.
Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,

Václav
Bernard´sSummer School

8.dubna přišel email od Johna Cullinanea

Dear Vaclay I am sorry if I sounded very short in my previous e- mails. but as I say I am not on that committee. I met Charles Moore at the World championships at Glasgow and he says he is replying to your e-mails.
The problem is that in order for the World Shop to be declared OPEN and for pupils of CLRG teachers to attend then it must only be teachers (of step danicng/solo and Ceili/ figure dancing) registered with the CLRG who are teaching at the workshop (This Rule does not apply to people teaching set dancing and séan nOs dancing since CLRG
does not register these teachers). For a copy of the list of registered teachers write to 'An Coimisiún Office" at 414 The Capel Building. St Marys Abbey, Dublin 7.
Best regards;

Moje odpověď další den byla následující:

Dear John,

I am pleased to hear from you. Hope you had enjoyed your time in Glasgow. I would like to clarify from the beginning, I greatly respect you and don't intend to drive you crazy with our communication. I understand you are not in rules committee, I still appreciate all your help. I only wanted to keep you updated how things were developing. I want to thank you, John, that you kept asking for me, even though you didn't have to.

As I said above, only want to keep you updated. We wont apply for 'Open workshop' status anymore this year as we'd have to change teachers panel, and its too late for it now. I'm in touch now with Charles Moore and asked him to write a statetment for me, so CLRG dancers and their teachers clearly understand that CLRG rules apply for step dancing classes only. Hopefully I'll be able to publish that on BSS website soon to avoid confusion what appeared here just before Easter. So that's the story with our event in Prague so far.

One thing I might like to ask you and it has nothing to do with BSS this time. On our family website, which is very popular among people interested in Irish culture in the Czech Republic and other countries for its topicality, has special part dedicated to intersting people connected to Irish culture in certain way - music, dancing, language, etc... we have inteviewed already both Czech and English speaking persons. It would be nice to have there someone like you too. Would you be interested to do interview for us? I can send you couple of questions and if you don't like any of them, you don't have to answer it...
Thank you, John! Looking forward to hearing from you...
Best regards,
Václav
www.bernards.cz

15.4. jsem se následujícím emailem Charlesovi připomenul:

Dear Charles,

I am back to you because of my last e-mail to you. I haven't received any answer from you yet. I know you are very busy person, just want to make sure you got my e-mail from April, 7th. Your answer to that is very important for our summer school.
Please get back to me soon as I need to ensure dancers from CLRG schools, they wont have any trouble with CLRG by attending other workshops from our summer school such as sean nos dancing, singing, music or irish language...
Looking forward to hearing from you soon!
Kind regards,
Vaclav

16.4. přišel nejprve první email od Charlese, kde připomíná svůj email z 23.3., kde mě vyzývá ke změně lektorů:

Hi Vaclav,

Here is a copy of email I sent to you and I need you to give me an up to date application with new names .

A po chvíli přišel i druhý email:

Hi Vaclav,

If you are only having other form of dance you need to be definite that this what will happen. I need you to confirm exactly what your workshop will entail.
Also who will be giving your workshop.

Regards

Charles

Zatím poslední email, který porběhl mezi námi a Charlesem Moorem, byl z 16.4.2010 a byl následujícího znění:

Dear Charles,

our summer school has several workshops. Dancing workshops are: step dancing, sean-nos dancing and set dancing. Sean-nos dancing and set dancing are taught by a different teacher (who is not connected to CLRG) than step dancing workshop.
My question is though:
1) Can CLRG dancers participate in workshops outside of step dancing? e.g.: sean-nos dancing, sean nos singing, music classes, irish language, etc. 
I have a group of people waiting for this answer, so your prompt reply would be greatly appreciated. 
Kind regards, 
Václav
www.bernards.cz